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		<title>Comment on Who Would You Rather Be? by dprichmond</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/04/30/who-would-you-rather-be/#comment-290</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Clare for taking the time to read and comment.  As for the case of being able to change your orientation, that is up for considerable debate, but for the sake of argument, let&#039;s say you&#039;re right.  He can still choose to abstain from sex, just as many do before they get married just as I choose to be faithful to my wife and not sleep with every woman that crosses my path.  There is always a choice.
  
As to why not just shut up about homosexuality?  This goes to Christians being called to influence the world around us.  As I stated in my article, we are called to be salt.  One of the things salt does is preserve, and the Church is called to preserve morality, which means calling sin evil.  Is it the first thing I want people to know about Christians?  No.  But it is a topic at the forefront of society, and if the Church is silent on it then we are giving tacit approval to something the Bible clearly condemns. 
 
Finally, Broussard was using his faith as an example of being able to co-exist peacefully with those we disagree with.  He said those comments in the reference to a gay journalist he is friends with and clearly stated that he and his friend get along knowing that they disagree on this issue.  If you want to limit ESPN to merely a sports network, then it shouldn&#039;t be covering the Collins story at all since homosexuality is a social issue, not a sports issue.  But if they can cover Collins, an athlete who happens to be gay, why can&#039;t Broussard, a journalist who happens to be a Christian, also share his worldview?  It&#039;s a pertinent question, and if you watch the interview, Broussard&#039;s comments were neither out of context nor &quot;evangelistic&quot; in any way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Clare for taking the time to read and comment.  As for the case of being able to change your orientation, that is up for considerable debate, but for the sake of argument, let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re right.  He can still choose to abstain from sex, just as many do before they get married just as I choose to be faithful to my wife and not sleep with every woman that crosses my path.  There is always a choice.</p>
<p>As to why not just shut up about homosexuality?  This goes to Christians being called to influence the world around us.  As I stated in my article, we are called to be salt.  One of the things salt does is preserve, and the Church is called to preserve morality, which means calling sin evil.  Is it the first thing I want people to know about Christians?  No.  But it is a topic at the forefront of society, and if the Church is silent on it then we are giving tacit approval to something the Bible clearly condemns. </p>
<p>Finally, Broussard was using his faith as an example of being able to co-exist peacefully with those we disagree with.  He said those comments in the reference to a gay journalist he is friends with and clearly stated that he and his friend get along knowing that they disagree on this issue.  If you want to limit ESPN to merely a sports network, then it shouldn&#8217;t be covering the Collins story at all since homosexuality is a social issue, not a sports issue.  But if they can cover Collins, an athlete who happens to be gay, why can&#8217;t Broussard, a journalist who happens to be a Christian, also share his worldview?  It&#8217;s a pertinent question, and if you watch the interview, Broussard&#8217;s comments were neither out of context nor &#8220;evangelistic&#8221; in any way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Would You Rather Be? by Clare Flourish</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/04/30/who-would-you-rather-be/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare Flourish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have to be very careful with that last verse, as it is a get out of jail free card. The more people disagree, the more I know I am right!

The difference in your diversity argument is that Jason Collins cannot change his orientation (ask us! We all try) but Chris Broussard can change his view. Now, here are you trying not to seem hostile, but your response and Broussard&#039;s show that it is still brave to come out as gay in the US; you will get a great deal of back-up for your view, and others disagreeing is not persecution. 

Why not just shut up about homosexuality? Is the first thing you want non-Christians to know about Christians, as if it were the most important thing about us, that we advocate celibacy for gay people? 

And- ESPN is a sports TV network, which covers sports. It is not there to evangelise for Broussard&#039;s particular view- which some Christians find unbiblical. Why should he not be sacked, for abusing his position to abuse a sportsman?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to be very careful with that last verse, as it is a get out of jail free card. The more people disagree, the more I know I am right!</p>
<p>The difference in your diversity argument is that Jason Collins cannot change his orientation (ask us! We all try) but Chris Broussard can change his view. Now, here are you trying not to seem hostile, but your response and Broussard&#8217;s show that it is still brave to come out as gay in the US; you will get a great deal of back-up for your view, and others disagreeing is not persecution. </p>
<p>Why not just shut up about homosexuality? Is the first thing you want non-Christians to know about Christians, as if it were the most important thing about us, that we advocate celibacy for gay people? </p>
<p>And- ESPN is a sports TV network, which covers sports. It is not there to evangelise for Broussard&#8217;s particular view- which some Christians find unbiblical. Why should he not be sacked, for abusing his position to abuse a sportsman?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling Out Both Sides by dprichmond</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/03/27/calling-out-both-sides/#comment-248</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shirley, I may have to check that book out.  Thanks for the recommendation! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shirley, I may have to check that book out.  Thanks for the recommendation! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling Out Both Sides by Shirley</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/03/27/calling-out-both-sides/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shirley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave I am reading a book by John Price, The End Of America. What you have said is covered in this book. Thank you for your wisdom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave I am reading a book by John Price, The End Of America. What you have said is covered in this book. Thank you for your wisdom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling Out Both Sides by Steve</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/03/27/calling-out-both-sides/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicely done Richmond,

I hear what you’re saying about Christians getting too involved in this one specific issue. For my part, I still spend time in my own mind debating before making a post on FB or blog on the issue because I know that it can be taken the wrong way. On the other hand, as a minister / teacher of the Bible, I know that I am required to speak the “whole counsel of God” and rightly divide the word as you noted.

One thing that saddens me is the time factor here that we are days away from Easter which reminds us of the Resurrection of Christ thus showing He was and is all that He said he was; that he did indeed rise from the grave and bring victory over death and sin. That is what should be flooding the air and cyber waves and we are distracted by the politics of man in Washington. Just wonder what’s behind that in the spiritual realm.

Seems like balance in teaching and “all things in love” are two good mantras here.

Anyway . . . agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done Richmond,</p>
<p>I hear what you’re saying about Christians getting too involved in this one specific issue. For my part, I still spend time in my own mind debating before making a post on FB or blog on the issue because I know that it can be taken the wrong way. On the other hand, as a minister / teacher of the Bible, I know that I am required to speak the “whole counsel of God” and rightly divide the word as you noted.</p>
<p>One thing that saddens me is the time factor here that we are days away from Easter which reminds us of the Resurrection of Christ thus showing He was and is all that He said he was; that he did indeed rise from the grave and bring victory over death and sin. That is what should be flooding the air and cyber waves and we are distracted by the politics of man in Washington. Just wonder what’s behind that in the spiritual realm.</p>
<p>Seems like balance in teaching and “all things in love” are two good mantras here.</p>
<p>Anyway . . . agreed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling Out Both Sides by NotAScientist</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/03/27/calling-out-both-sides/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NotAScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;First and foremost, stop equating this with the Civil Rights movements of the 50s and 60s.&quot;

First and foremost, comparisons can be made even when things aren&#039;t exactly the same. The fight for interracial marriage specifically is close enough to compare to the fight for gay marriage. You may disagree, but the comparison can be made rationally.

&quot;If you want respect, please, give some (again, this applies to both sides).&quot;

Do we want respect?

Respect under the law, certainly. Respect from political opponents? I don&#039;t know.

I&#039;m not going to go out of my way, personally, to insult people. But it doesn&#039;t really matter to me if people respect me, particularly those who disagree with my moral positions. That might sound cold, but it&#039;s true.

I count many gay couples amongst my friends. And while I can&#039;t speak for all of them, I&#039;d be willing to bet that as long as they can legally get married they don&#039;t care if they are respected by people who hold to anti-ssm positions.

&quot;When I see someone try to twist Scripture to justify their own worldview the image I get is a child with a sword. &quot;

I see every Christian ever, yourself included, pulling from the big book of multiple choice and taking what they&#039;re comfortable with.

&quot;Finally, please realize that our faith is just as precious and personal to us as your worldview is to you.&quot;

That&#039;s fine. But your faith shouldn&#039;t impact someone else&#039;s life against their will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First and foremost, stop equating this with the Civil Rights movements of the 50s and 60s.&#8221;</p>
<p>First and foremost, comparisons can be made even when things aren&#8217;t exactly the same. The fight for interracial marriage specifically is close enough to compare to the fight for gay marriage. You may disagree, but the comparison can be made rationally.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you want respect, please, give some (again, this applies to both sides).&#8221;</p>
<p>Do we want respect?</p>
<p>Respect under the law, certainly. Respect from political opponents? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to go out of my way, personally, to insult people. But it doesn&#8217;t really matter to me if people respect me, particularly those who disagree with my moral positions. That might sound cold, but it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>I count many gay couples amongst my friends. And while I can&#8217;t speak for all of them, I&#8217;d be willing to bet that as long as they can legally get married they don&#8217;t care if they are respected by people who hold to anti-ssm positions.</p>
<p>&#8220;When I see someone try to twist Scripture to justify their own worldview the image I get is a child with a sword. &#8221;</p>
<p>I see every Christian ever, yourself included, pulling from the big book of multiple choice and taking what they&#8217;re comfortable with.</p>
<p>&#8220;Finally, please realize that our faith is just as precious and personal to us as your worldview is to you.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine. But your faith shouldn&#8217;t impact someone else&#8217;s life against their will.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sounding the Call: Finding Preachers in a Post-Christian America by Shirley</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/03/22/sounding-the-call-finding-preachers-in-a-post-christian-america/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shirley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 01:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for such a thought provoking blog. I am an older person so I realize how our preachers coming out of college are now the same as when I was younger. I remember  the Hell fire and brim  stone ones.. It is great to hear a minister your age proclaim the Gospel with no hesitation of the toes he may be stepping on. God bless you and your family]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such a thought provoking blog. I am an older person so I realize how our preachers coming out of college are now the same as when I was younger. I remember  the Hell fire and brim  stone ones.. It is great to hear a minister your age proclaim the Gospel with no hesitation of the toes he may be stepping on. God bless you and your family</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good Grief by dprichmond</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/03/15/good-grief/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dprichmond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Lance!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lance!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good Grief by Lance Cordell</title>
		<link>http://ponderingpreacher.com/2013/03/15/good-grief/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance Cordell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Preacher Dave, I don&#039;t believe I have ever really thought about a preachers feelings until I read this.Often times I feel the preacher is there for the people and overlook the fact that they are also human.I think you are doing a great job and leading that christian life. Keep preaching brother and I&#039;ll try to remember that my teaching a flock doesn&#039;t come with only the easy tasks.
                                       God blesss,
P.S. If you ever need an ear just call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preacher Dave, I don&#8217;t believe I have ever really thought about a preachers feelings until I read this.Often times I feel the preacher is there for the people and overlook the fact that they are also human.I think you are doing a great job and leading that christian life. Keep preaching brother and I&#8217;ll try to remember that my teaching a flock doesn&#8217;t come with only the easy tasks.<br />
                                       God blesss,<br />
P.S. If you ever need an ear just call.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Patriotism a Sin? by Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too don&#039;t have a problem with patriotic songs. But I do have a big problem with patriotic songs sang in corporate worship. God has never command it so it is a sin to do something in church that God has not command. Worship should be God inspired songs, not man inspired. Patriotism can be pride and a form of idolatry. A family member of mine had recently a confrontation with a war veteran on the removal of a hat. The &quot; Veteran&quot; spoke to my family member with no understanding. This &quot; veteran&quot; did not know my family member and got aggressive because my family member did not take his hat during the star spangle anthem. Let me add my friend did not know the custom. This was during some game we went to.  We were not at the bleachers. We we giving our tickets and walking in when they started singing. We were caught by surprise and them this &quot; idolater veteran&quot; comes up to us and asks us aggressively why my family member didnt take his hat off. My family member responded with &quot; I am not sure&quot; this veteran became irritated and started saying well you have to take it off, and if you don&#039;t want to do so then leave this country! I was left speach less at the same time to be honest I was pissed off. I was going to tell him if only you had that kind of zeal for God, you would not be here be littling strangers who you don&#039;t know. My family member did not mean disrespect but this man &quot; veteran&quot; has given me a bad impression. Respect is earned not demanded. Instead of him getting to know us and educating us in the etiquette of the star spangle anthem with Grace, he chose to humiliate us strangers in public and actually I have lost so much respect of him as an individual no matter what he did for this country. His mentality of totalitarianism and tyranny is what this country fought against. Hope whoever reads this, learn and try to get to know others and see their point of view and be graceful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too don&#8217;t have a problem with patriotic songs. But I do have a big problem with patriotic songs sang in corporate worship. God has never command it so it is a sin to do something in church that God has not command. Worship should be God inspired songs, not man inspired. Patriotism can be pride and a form of idolatry. A family member of mine had recently a confrontation with a war veteran on the removal of a hat. The &#8221; Veteran&#8221; spoke to my family member with no understanding. This &#8221; veteran&#8221; did not know my family member and got aggressive because my family member did not take his hat during the star spangle anthem. Let me add my friend did not know the custom. This was during some game we went to.  We were not at the bleachers. We we giving our tickets and walking in when they started singing. We were caught by surprise and them this &#8221; idolater veteran&#8221; comes up to us and asks us aggressively why my family member didnt take his hat off. My family member responded with &#8221; I am not sure&#8221; this veteran became irritated and started saying well you have to take it off, and if you don&#8217;t want to do so then leave this country! I was left speach less at the same time to be honest I was pissed off. I was going to tell him if only you had that kind of zeal for God, you would not be here be littling strangers who you don&#8217;t know. My family member did not mean disrespect but this man &#8221; veteran&#8221; has given me a bad impression. Respect is earned not demanded. Instead of him getting to know us and educating us in the etiquette of the star spangle anthem with Grace, he chose to humiliate us strangers in public and actually I have lost so much respect of him as an individual no matter what he did for this country. His mentality of totalitarianism and tyranny is what this country fought against. Hope whoever reads this, learn and try to get to know others and see their point of view and be graceful.</p>
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